Lying – The Record – Trump v. Comey.

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What a week!!!! Former FBI Chief James Comey testified under oath during Senate hearings about his interactions with Donald Trump as candidate, then as President and boss. Comey did not have kind words, and under oath, continued to say Trump demanded he pledge “fealty” to Trump. Trump is saying these, and other things Comey said, are lies.

Yes. He’s flat-out accusing the former head of the FBI of lying under oath.

That’s a very serious accusation. Trump has hinted that there are tapes of the conversations… I think he’s hinted… Sometimes he says things and you’re not quite sure if he’s saying what it seems like he’s saying… Anyway, people seem to think Trump hinted that he has tapes. He’s demurring on whether there ARE tapes or not, but he’s saying he’ll let us know one way or the other “soon”… Just like how he said he would show his tax returns soon… After an IRS audit was done… After the election, after he leaves office, etc,… Or just like the evidence he gathered in his quest to prove Obama was really born in Kenya: “I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re finding.”

OK. Sorry. Sidebarring there for a moment.

Let’s have some fun and do a wee bit of investigative journalism and look at the record of each man, Comey and Trump, to see if either has a history of lying under oath.

First up to bat: James Comey.

Other than the current accusation by Trump and the Trumpublican media, an accusation which has yet to be proven or debunked, I couldn’t find much evidence that Comey has lied while under oath. I found this instance concerning the Huma Abedin ? Clinton emails, where Comey said Abedin regularly forwarded Clintons emails to her husband Pickle Pants… I mean Anthony Weiner. At a later date, he said he misspoke. Maybe. But for the heck of it, let’s call it a “lie”.

So far, that’s all I found.

One possible Comey lie under oath.

Now, let’s look at Trump’s and see if he has ever been caught lying under oath….

Here is one where he lied under oath about then NFL Commissioner offering a team to Trump if Trump and his USFL didn’t sue the NFL.

Both men seem to have at least one instance where their sworn testimony may not have matched reality.

What about public statements and the like?

Comey has a little cover here. As the head of the FBI, there were certainly circumstances where he had to lie to protect the integrity of work and investigations being conducted by his office. There is the fallout from this odd incident in 2004, when Comey raced Alberto Gonzeles and Andrew Card to the bedside of G. W. Bush Attorney General John Ashcroft to try and prevent the two from getting approval of a domestic spying program the White House was seeking. Of course the Trumpublican press has their side of the story, where Gonzales is the hero and Comey is the villain. But, at least right now, I don’t see very many using this incident to discredit Comey.

Trump and lying.

Where to begin…

How about here. In Donald Trump v Tim O’Brien, Trump, in one deposition, stretched out over two days, Trump is forced to admit, under oath, that he lied or misrepresented the truth. How many times did he lie or misrepresent the truth????

Thirty times.

From the article:

“That deposition — 170 transcribed pages — offers extraordinary insights into Trump’s relationship with the truth. Trump’s falsehoods were unstrategic — needless, highly specific, easy to disprove. When caught, Trump sometimes blamed others for the error or explained that the untrue thing really was true, in his mind, because he saw the situation more positively than others did”.

Or what about this?

“Contradicting repeated denials from Donald Trump and his team, Newsmax reported on May 14, 2016 that Trump met Russian Ambassador Kislyak at a VIP reception in Washington on April 27.

And while meeting the Russian ambassador is fine, why lie about it?”

Here is a list of 101 lies told by Donald Trump, and it’s written in April of 2016. And most of the material evidence presented is from his campaign for the Presidency up to that point.

There are more, of course. A LOT more. But you get the picture. Donald Trump is now on the record saying he will testify under oath that Comey lied and perjured himself on Thursday. If Donald Trump is serious about testifying under oath about who lied, himself or Comey, it’s pretty obvious Trump is going to have a “yuge” problem and have a much steeper hill to climb in establishing credibility. And Trump may HAVE to testify under oath, as he has just accused Comey of perjury. That is not a charge taken lightly by anyone, least of all, by the Senate Intelligence Committee.

PS. Note the rambling third paragraph. See… It IS possible to ramble and make sense. I should maybe offer Donald Trump lessons???

4 Comments to “Lying – The Record – Trump v. Comey.”

  1. By Jeff Alberts, June 11, 2017 @ 3:26 pm

    Unless Trump has tapes, it’s his word against Comey’s. Meaning there is no way to prove who lied. But my money would be on Trump as liar.

  2. By Sonicfrog, June 11, 2017 @ 5:48 pm

    That’s kind of the point. I don’t think there are tapes. But, if one has to look at each mans record… Well…

  3. By Sonicfrog, June 11, 2017 @ 5:52 pm

    PS. It’s good to be blogging again. I’ll be migrating to my Centos home server soon, as soon as I finish configuring the thing. While I’m setting that up, I’m looking at this thing called Sonicfrog.net, and I’m realizing I need to post more here than directly to facebook. I have scribblings on facebook I would like to repost, but, if it’s more than a few weeks ago, it’s impossible to find.

  4. By Jeff Alberts, June 12, 2017 @ 2:34 am

    Can’t stand FB. Should be called Narcissist Book.

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