{"id":2403,"date":"2009-11-09T19:04:31","date_gmt":"2009-11-09T19:04:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/?p=2403"},"modified":"2011-03-14T17:13:45","modified_gmt":"2011-03-14T17:13:45","slug":"a-point-to-ponder-corporations-as-individuals-the-nuclear-option","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/?p=2403","title":{"rendered":"A Point To Ponder:  The Nuclear Option &#8211; Remove Corporations From Individual Status"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-medium.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top: 5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\",\"StumbleUpon\",\"Digg\",\"Reddit\",\"Bebo\",\"Delicious\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"A%20Point%20To%20Ponder%3A%20%20The%20Nuclear%20Option%20-%20Remove%20Corporations%20From%20Individual%20Status\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div><p>One thing about American law that has struck me as odd, is the fact that Corporations count as de-facto individual persons in regards to various state and federal laws. This has been a part of the fabric of Americans life since the Supreme Court decided such in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.answers.com\/topic\/santa-clara-county-v-southern-pacific-railroad\"><em>Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad<\/em><\/a> in 1886, reaffirming a decision by the Ninth Circuit Court in 1882 &#8212; why does it always have to be the Ninth Circuit that screws things up!\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.endgame.org\/primer-history.html\">There are also accusations<\/a> that the ruling of both courts was tainted because a few of the judges did own stock in Railroads, including the one involved in the case. I bring this topic up now, because me and the Sonic-Mate were listening to one of our favorite pod-casts, Dan Carlin&#8217;s Common Sense. and at the end of the show (<em># 163 Blocking the Playmakers<\/em>) he was talking about the innate corruption that exists in our political system when it comes to corporations being allowed to give donations to political candidates and causes. Jessie Ventura has referred to it as &#8220;Open Bribery&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>When it comes to Corporations, there is as big a split towards them as any issue in the two political parties. The left is unhappy because Corporations are allowed to give ungodly collective sums to political candidates, thus allowing them to have much more influence over a candidate than the actual people&#8230; you know, the human kind who vote for them. The right is pissed because taxes on Corporations is too high&#8230; And they are. We have one of the highest Corporate tax rates in the world. This is a big factor in making US made products more expensive than imports, and contributes to the decision of companies to move operations overseas, taking much needed jobs with them.<\/p>\n<p>So, what do we do about this?<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Easy.<\/p>\n<p>Lets compromise and tackle both problems.  Lets get rid of the Corporate Tax, period. Doing so will save jobs and expand the economy at a time in our history when that is so needed.<\/p>\n<p>Democrats will HATE this idea, but, there is something to offer them that could make them go for it.\u00a0 It&#8217;s my firm belief that a company SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO  give to a political candidate; only actual real live breathing people should. Get rid of all Corporate donations to the political system. Give the government back to the people. Note that this would also apply to unions, so it might be a bit of a hard sell.<\/p>\n<p>Is this sort of compromise a pipe dream. With the current leadership of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid????&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Did I just refer to them as leaders? Sorry. My bad.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, if <em>they<\/em> tried to do it, the legislation would probably be 1,997 pages long. And do I think that any of the current crop of GOP&#8217;ers could be brave enough to take on the inevitable cries of protest from the Rush \/ Hannity \/ Levin wing of the party? Not going to hold my breath on that one. I wonder what Glen Beck would think of my proposal?<\/p>\n<p>Still, growing the economy AND getting rid of undue political influence by various lobbies <a href=\"..\/?p=2403\" target=\"_blank\">at the same time<\/a>. Hey, one can dream, can&#8217;t he?<\/p>\n<p>PS. Here is a guy who is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.authorsden.com\/categories\/article_top.asp?catid=34&amp;id=29128\">trying to abolish the concept<\/a> of the Corporation as an individual.  Someone persuade me that this wouldn&#8217;t be a good itdea.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-medium.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top: 5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\",\"StumbleUpon\",\"Digg\",\"Reddit\",\"Bebo\",\"Delicious\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"A%20Point%20To%20Ponder%3A%20%20The%20Nuclear%20Option%20-%20Remove%20Corporations%20From%20Individual%20Status\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div><p>One thing about American law that has struck me as odd, is the fact that Corporations count as de-facto individual persons in regards to various state and federal laws. This has been a part of the fabric of Americans life since the Supreme Court decided such in Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad in [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[37,7,13,27],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2403"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2403"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2403\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2405,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2403\/revisions\/2405"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2403"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2403"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2403"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}