{"id":2544,"date":"2009-12-16T18:06:51","date_gmt":"2009-12-16T18:06:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/?p=2544"},"modified":"2009-12-16T18:08:24","modified_gmt":"2009-12-16T18:08:24","slug":"so-genesis-will-be-in-the-hall-of-fame-finally","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/?p=2544","title":{"rendered":"So, Genesis Will Be In The Hall Of Fame&#8230;. Finally"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-medium.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top: 5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\",\"StumbleUpon\",\"Digg\",\"Reddit\",\"Bebo\",\"Delicious\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"So%2C%20Genesis%20Will%20Be%20In%20The%20Hall%20Of%20Fame....%20Finally\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div><p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone\" title=\"duke\" src=\"http:\/\/carnell.files.wordpress.com\/2007\/06\/duke_hi.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" \/><\/p>\n<p>On Ann Althouse&#8217;s blog, commenter knox wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>You&#8217;re wrong. Genesis *totally* sucks. &#8220;Land of Confusion&#8221; and &#8220;That&#8217;s All&#8221; are two of the most grating pop songs ever. Oh, yeah don&#8217;t forget the classic &#8220;Invisible Touch&#8221;&#8230; barf.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m a long time Genesis fan, and if this is all you know of them, you don&#8217;t know them. The last few album were a shadow of the group, and don&#8217;t represent what the group was. You have to go much further back in their history to know the scope of the bands music.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>As someone else in the thread has said, there are two indeed two Genesis&#8217;s, It is indeed pre and post Steve Hackett. After Peter Gabriel left, Phil Collins, who had not desired to take over lead VOX, ended up with the job anyway, as he did have the vocal range and could sing with the same mannerisms of Gabriel. The style of their music didn&#8217;t change much &#8211; a little less grand and sweeping in scope, but it sounded like Genesis with Peter Gabriel.<\/p>\n<p>When Steve Hackett left, Mike Rutherford, the bassist (very under rated &#8211; I&#8217;ve stolen quite a few bass fills from him) took over on guitar. He is a very competent guitarist, and was originally the rhythm guitarist for the band in the early days&#8230;. but he&#8217;s no Steve Hackett, and has acknowledged as such. Hackett, BTW, is credited as being one of the first rock guitars to have use the finger tapping techniques on a recording, the same that made another guitarist famous&#8230; that would be Eddie Van Halen.  The character of the music did indeed begin to chance drastically after Hackett&#8217;s departure.<\/p>\n<p>To me, this is the most interesting time for the group. In the earlier Gabriel period, there is a sameness to each album that make it less interesting. After both Gabriel and Hackett left, Genesis went from a band operating on a grand scale, to a band that started to develop a more minimalist, accessible style.  To me, this period, which included the albums <em>And Then There Were Three<\/em>, <em>Duke<\/em> <em>Abacab<\/em>, <em>Three Sides Live<\/em>, and the self titled <em>Genesis<\/em> are very interesting because you can hear the band evolve with each album. During this transition Period, Collins began to shed the habit of mimicking Gabriel, which is still prominent on <em>And Then&#8230;<\/em> but has disappeared completely by the time they record <em>Genesis<\/em>. Though I didn&#8217;t appreciate it at the time, Rutherford&#8217;s guitar playing was more modest than Hackett&#8217;s (I was a teen, and teens want MORE guitars, not less), which allowed the other musicians to scale back too. This was also the period when the world started to take note of the band. The Rutherford penned &#8220;Follow You, Follow Me&#8221; became the bands first radio success. The next studio album, <em>Duke<\/em>, produced the hits &#8220;Misunderstanding&#8221; and the even more popular &#8220;Turn It On Again&#8221;. <em>Three Sides Live<\/em> brought &#8220;Paperlate&#8221;, a track from the fourth, non-live side, to the airwaves. Both <em>Abacab<\/em> and Genesis also produce munerous tracks that, not only were hits, but also show the fine crastmanship of the group that was Genesis.<\/p>\n<p>Why do I know so much about this group??? You&#8217;ve probably guessed I&#8217;m a huge fan. I must note that <em>Duke<\/em> is one of my all-time favorite records. The first cut of the album, &#8220;Behind The Lines&#8221;&#8230; barges in and grabs you by the throat! Anyone who does not think that Phil Collins is a good drummer, well listen to that&#8230; and bite me. &#8220;Duchess&#8221; follows the career of a female musician, from the heights of success, to the painful  fade of her career. &#8220;Man Of Our Times&#8221;, a driving song by Rutherford, has always been a favorite.  &#8220;Misunderstanding&#8221; and &#8220;Please Don&#8217;t Ask&#8221; both Collins penned tunes, are bitter reminders of the split he had recently had from his wife, the pain of which spawned much of the material from his career establishing solo album, <em>Face Value<\/em>. I really like all the songs on this album, and I have to mention Tony Banks&#8217;s &#8220;Heathaze&#8221;, a nice reflective tune that sneaks up on you. But the tracks I have listened to more than all the others, and I really did wear it out on the vinyl version of the album, are the last two tracks on the album, the instrumental &#8220;Duke&#8217;s Travels&#8221; and &#8220;Duke&#8217;s End&#8221;. Both tracks absolutely soar! I have dubbed this album my &#8220;Coma&#8221; album. I tell Greg, that if I&#8217;m ever in a coma, and he plays this album for me and I don&#8217;t snap out of it&#8230; well, you might as well pull the plug!<\/p>\n<p>Though the albums after this period became monster hits, I&#8217;m not as fond of their music. The success of Phil Collins as a song writer, as well as Mike Rutherfords success with Mike And The Mechanics, seemed to have interfered with the groups willingness to show their prowress and musical talents. I can empathise with the comment that started this post &#8211; they became too much of a pop band for my tastes. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I love a good pop song, and there were some good songs recorded during the tail end of the life of the group, but, yes knox, you are right, &#8220;Invisible Touch&#8221; does indeed leave something to be desired.<\/p>\n<p>OK. I&#8217;m done. Now, when the hell are you people going to put Rush, Yes, and ELO into the R &amp; R Hall Of Fame?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-medium.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top: 5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\",\"StumbleUpon\",\"Digg\",\"Reddit\",\"Bebo\",\"Delicious\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"So%2C%20Genesis%20Will%20Be%20In%20The%20Hall%20Of%20Fame....%20Finally\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div><p>On Ann Althouse&#8217;s blog, commenter knox wrote: You&#8217;re wrong. Genesis *totally* sucks. &#8220;Land of Confusion&#8221; and &#8220;That&#8217;s All&#8221; are two of the most grating pop songs ever. Oh, yeah don&#8217;t forget the classic &#8220;Invisible Touch&#8221;&#8230; barf. I&#8217;m a long time Genesis fan, and if this is all you know of them, you don&#8217;t know them. 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