{"id":4133,"date":"2010-10-11T16:42:16","date_gmt":"2010-10-11T16:42:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/?p=4133"},"modified":"2010-10-11T17:01:44","modified_gmt":"2010-10-11T17:01:44","slug":"its-personal-pt-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/?p=4133","title":{"rendered":"It&#8217;s Personal, Pt 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-medium.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top: 5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\",\"StumbleUpon\",\"Digg\",\"Reddit\",\"Bebo\",\"Delicious\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"It%27s%20Personal%2C%20Pt%202\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div><p>Dale Carpenter&#8217;s response <a href=\"http:\/\/volokh.com\/2010\/10\/10\/palladino-gays-are-coming-to-get-your-kids\/\">is priceless<\/a>! Note that he includes the the transcript of the full quote. Here is Qoute 1 in it&#8217;s full form:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We must stop pandering to the pornographers and the perverts who seek to target our children and destroy their lives. I didn\u2019t march in the gay parade this year \u2014 the gay pride parade \u2014 this year.  My opponent did.  And that\u2019s not the example that we should be showing our children, and certainly not in our schools.<\/p>\n<p>And don\u2019t misquote me as wanting to hurt homosexual people in any way. That would be a dastardly lie. My approach is \u2018live and let live.\u2019 I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family. And I don\u2019t want them to be brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option \u2013 it isn\u2019t.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Once again, homosexuals = predators and perverts out to convert children to homosexuality! Vile! The full context of the quote makes his comments much worse than they came of on my first reading. Dale responds:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I have some news for Mr. Paladino.  Being gay is not an \u201cequally valid and successful option\u201d for a heterosexual child.  But for a gay kid, being gay is the option.  Whether it is \u201csuccessful\u201d depends a lot on the love and support shown to that child as she grows up. It depends on whether the people whose words she hears in public media, and yes in schools, tell her that nobody could possibly feel the way she does unless she had been \u201cbrainwashed.\u201d A heartbreaking number of gay youths conclude, at a rate several times that of their peers, that everyone would be better off without them.<\/p>\n<p>Lots of gay and straight people would be \u201cmore successful getting married and raising a family.\u201d I know Mr. Paladino opposes same-sex marriage, since he has pledged to veto any SSM bill that passes the state legislature. So when Mr. Paladino says that children would be better off getting married and raising a family, is he saying that gay people should marry opposite-sex spouses and bring kids into those marriages? <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Uhm&#8230; No!  He&#8217;s saying &#8220;don&#8217;t be gay&#8221; you silly goose!  Dale continues:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Of course he is not suggesting such a thoughtless thing. Instead, his message was thoughtless in a different way: I doubt he gives any thought at all to what kind of future gay kids will have. They do not register with him, except perhaps as incipient agents of destruction. It is past time to stop pandering to Mr. Paladino by pretending that he represents any deep moral tradition, rather than a deeply immoral impulse to exploit hoary and discredited fears of people he knows and cares nothing about.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I don&#8217;t like Andrew Cuomo, but if I still lived in New York, he&#8217;d now get my vote.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the video of some of the original quotes! <\/p>\n<p><object width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/BKL9TRaePww?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US\"><\/param><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\"><\/param><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/BKL9TRaePww?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" width=\"480\" height=\"385\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" class=\"hupso-share-buttons\"><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-medium.png\" style=\"border:0px; padding-top: 5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share Button\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Pinterest\",\"Linkedin\",\"StumbleUpon\",\"Digg\",\"Reddit\",\"Bebo\",\"Delicious\");var hupso_background_t=\"#EAF4FF\";var hupso_border_t=\"#66CCFF\";var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_image_folder_url = \"\";var hupso_url_t=\"\";var hupso_title_t=\"It%27s%20Personal%2C%20Pt%202\";<\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/js\/share_toolbar.js\"><\/script><!-- Hupso Share Buttons --><\/div><p>Dale Carpenter&#8217;s response is priceless! Note that he includes the the transcript of the full quote. Here is Qoute 1 in it&#8217;s full form: We must stop pandering to the pornographers and the perverts who seek to target our children and destroy their lives. I didn\u2019t march in the gay parade this year \u2014 the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[39,21],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4133"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4133"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4133\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4136,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4133\/revisions\/4136"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4133"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4133"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sonicfrog.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4133"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}