Gay Bars As A Weapon!
This idea, originally sent to me from one of my most idealistic Conservative friends, has been circulating on the web, and it’s been featured on various conservative sites:
So, the Muslim investors championing the construction of the new mosque near Ground Zero claim it’s all about strengthening the relationship between the Muslim and non-Muslim world.
As an American, I believe they have every right to build the mosque – after all, if they buy the land and they follow the law – who can stop them?
Which is, why, in the spirit of outreach, I’ve decided to do the same thing.
I’m announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space.
Even Andrew Sullivan is playing along:
The clear winner in our blue ribbon panel (that would be me) is Bar Van Gogh-Gogh.
Named in honor of Theo, a martyr for Western freedom, it should have plenty of go-go boys, belly dancers, and a door policy of mandatory beards. Maybe Anderson’s boyfriend could start it up. He’s from Corsica, you know, a great guy, and he sure knows how to run a happening joint.
Personally, I think Theo’s would be the better name.
Now, I do think this is a humorous exercise to bring home a point, and it works quite well. AllahPundit makes this point:
Not an idea that would play well with Christians or Jews vis-a-vis property adjacent to a church or temple, but oh well: If we’re going to celebrate tolerance regardless of the sensitivities of the surrounding area, let’s celebrate! And the best part? Because, as we’ve been assured many times, the “Park51? cultural center will be a model of moderation, gay Muslim men don’t have to worry about being seen entering Gut’s establishment. Flaunt it all you want, fellas; you’re in Moderate Town, U.S.A., on that block. I look forward to the congratulatory Mike Bloomberg press conference.
Nice. It is an audacious way to show the hypocrisy of the hyper-tolerance crowd, and I’m for it. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander and all that…
On a personal level, I am also disturbed. After having to defend last weeks court decision invalidating Prop 8, in which I am constantly reminded that I’m just not quite as equal as heterosexual (though I am reminded over and over again that me and the Sonicmate can get married…. just not to each other), I find this idea degrading. We’re not quite normal enough, not quite human enough, to enjoy the ultimate expression of love and unity, and to prove the point, the very same group that tells me this has no problem using us fags as a weapon to denigrate an entire religion. Hey, we may be sinners, and may not benefit society, but we sure can be useful if it’s in the name of hurting others..
So, in the spirit of being fair, I’m thinking maybe we ought to start building bars next to churches, temples and synagogues.
I’m not really advocating this, but it does seem like all is fair in love and war.
Meanwhile….
What. Did anyone really think I would just pass up the obvious opportunity to post it??????
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By Samadhi, August 13, 2010 @ 7:29 pm
–After having to defend last weeks court decision invalidating Prop 8
Irrespective of how one feels about same-sex marriage*, Judge Walker’s ruling is indefensible. I really can’t say it any better than Ed Whelan [http://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/243693/most-egregious-performance-ever-federal-district-judge-ed-whelan] has on Bench Memos. This is naked judicial activism by someone with a clear agenda and it will, in my opinion, do harm to those in favor of same-sex marriages. His refusal to allow a stay is telling and I believe even the 9th Circuit will overrule him on that. If not, the Supreme Court certainly will. And the Supreme Court will also overturn this ruling, or affirm the 9th Circuits overturning (if they, unlikely, overturn it)
Also, you paint with a broad brush here. By saying
–So, in the spirit of being fair, I’m thinking maybe we ought to start building bars next to churches, temples and synagogues.
you seem to be implying that anyone who voted for Prop 8 is a religious bigot who thinks that homosexuals are less equal. Surely this may be the case for some but I know for a fact that it is not the case for all. You do an injustice to those that have well thought out, fair minded opinions. I don’t personally agree with them but you really shouldn’t dismiss them (calling tea partiers racists?).
Also, the above quote shows another point your off on. Building a gay bar next to the mosque would not be the same as building gay bars next to other houses of worship. In the former, building the mosque is the provocation, in the later building the gay bar is. A better analogy to building a gay bar next to the mosque would be the spontaneous counter protests to those ridiculous Westboro Baptist Church protesters.
*I voted against it, FWIW. But being an “idealistic Conservative” (read: libertarian), probably not for the reasons you did.
By Tweed, August 25, 2010 @ 10:49 pm
I was quite amused the other day when the psycho pseudo-leader of the central valleys prop H8 movement (the cornerstone church guy) said to the press “If we allow the gays to get married, whats to stop a bisexual from marrying a man AND a woman”. I thought, “EXACTLY!!”